Jan. 25, 2023
Kate Byrne - Nourishing Your Soul
Are you a female entrepreneur that gives to everyone else and then wonders why our business doesn’t flourish? Or are you a female entrepreneur who wonders if their outside world reflects your inside world?
On this episode of the Wellness and Wealth podcast, Katherine “Kate” Byrne of PopVenture shares about practices that can help you nourish your soul. She’ll also share why it’s saying no, it doesn't mean you can’t do something but that it doesn’t align with your current highest self.
In this episode, Kate Byrne answers the following questions:
- What does nourishing your soul mean to her?
- How did she discover she needed to nourish herself first?
- What warning signs are that a female entrepreneur is doing too much for others?
- What are the first steps to start nourishing yourself first?
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Transcript
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Hi everyone.
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Today's topic is nourishing your soul and the impact on your business.
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I'm here with special guest Kate Byrne.
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I'm gonna read her bio and then we're gonna get started.
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Kate Byrne grows things, people, businesses, movements, her career, marries her love of media, the power of technology, and the impact of heart to help people and business be forces for good.
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The Stanford grad is a trusted voice and cross-sector translator, a gifted rainmaker and team builder and a leader, voice in conscious leadership and the importance of trust as a form of capital.
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Byrne has a successful track record as well as respected C-Suite executive leader at Blue Chip brands such as Katapult X SOCAP, Global Business Week Incorporated, Fast Company Tides, and the George Lucas Education Foundation.
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She is the strategic growth advisor to Good Light Capital Plus Media Solutions and Emerge Studios.
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She's the host of two popular podcast Rebels with a Purpose and the editor of WomenAdvancing a part of the Media Video Image Network.
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Her creativity and strategic acumen.
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In building Vanguard products, one her recognition of on the coveted Folio Most Influential Media Leaders list.
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She's the co-founder and Stewardship Circle for the Next Economy leading efforts to make the impact ecosystem more efficient, equitable, and broad reaching.
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She serves as an advisor to SOCAP and to the Tom Tom Foundation, an advocate for women and girls.
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Byrne is the former resident in the UN Women SF Board Commissioner for the Marin Women's Commission and Co-Chair for the Marin Teen Girls Conference.
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She loves travel, hiking, scuba diving, music, dancing, yoga, sous cheffing, and her family, both two leggeds and four leggeds.
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A fourth generation Bay area, California native She now lives in Charlottesville Virginia, welcome Kate.
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Woo.
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Thank you Wendy.
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Great to be here.
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Excited to have a chance to sit down and chat.
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Yeah, me too.
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And I have to say, actually reading the women's bios that come on the show is one of my favorite things, cuz I think it's always so important for somebody to hear back all the things they've done.
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Yeah.
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And it made me feel like I need to edit my bio.
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No, I think it's great because I sometimes think that we don't realize until we hear it, we're like, oh, we did that.
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Which is a good thing to know.
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Yeah, and I think a big part of it to me too is there's so many facets to us.
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And to your point, there's this part and this part of me and this part of me and this part of me.
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And so it, it was actually, thank you for that, cuz that was a gift to me.
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I'm glad to be able to do it.
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Let's talk about your topic.
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I love this.
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I'm all about self-care and there's so many different ways to do it.
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So for you, what does nourishing your soul mean?
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So, this has become a really important topic to me, especially when you've listened to that bio.
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There's so much that we do, and some of it was helpful and terrific, and some of it maybe I could have passed on.
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So for me I've come to learn nourishing my souls is when I am being true to myself and I'm in alignment with me with what matters to me, that I'm working with people that are working in integrity, that doesn't mean that we agree on everything.
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In fact, I actually think it's fun because I'm a lifelong learner, so I'm always really curious about, huh, that's fascinating.
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You see it that way.
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Tell me about that.
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But I also think it's essentially for lack of a better term, embracing my inner queen and being more discerning and making sure that I'm working in situations where I'm giving as much as I'm receiving.
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And that's so interesting.
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I love that you said embracing your inner queen and do you think in all honesty, because I know when I was younger I was very outgoing and I was very like, I'm gonna take on the world.
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And so I would say a yes to a lot of things that I may not have now looking back had to do but I Do you think that's part of it that whole idea of discernment, like where it's based on our experience that it's okay to say no?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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In fact, I just had a conversation with someone and if I could tell everyone who's listening, say no.
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And it doesn't mean you're weak.
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It doesn't mean you're selfish.
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It doesn't mean you can't.
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Sometimes it might mean, no, not yet, not at this time, but really it's a form for me in a lot of ways.
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I finally came to learn, it's a form of strength and power, and I think I often said yes, because I'm the youngest of four and I was a surprise.
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So my closest sibling in age is nine years older and I think for so often I needed to show I can do that.
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And if I said no, it meant I can't do that.
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It was somehow a reflection of a lack of capability on my part.
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No it's not.
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It's a part of just saying, Hey, look, done too much Uhuh.
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I gotta protect all this for something that really is truly in alignment where I can really better serve and showing up.
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But I think it absolutely is.
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Come on, we were all raised nice girls say yes when a person asks you to dance with them.
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I just went to dancing school where I grew up and that was a big thing.
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And if you wanna be liked you need to be friendly to absolutely everybody and go above and beyond and realizing we always have to be more than enough as opposed to we are enough as we are.
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If that makes sense.
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That makes perfect sense.
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As the youngest child and a cancer survivor, as a childhood cancer survivor, I am a hundred percent.
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I was like, I gotta do it.
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I gotta do it.
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I have to do it.
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And don't tell me I can't, cuz I grew up with don't do it.
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Don't do it.
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And I was like, don't tell me not to do it.
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Wendy you and I are cut from the same cloth the minute somebody said, oh, you can't do it.
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You don't need to do it.
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It's like, oh, well now I do.
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And I think it's important the sooner we embody that, we learn that we give ourselves permission and we actually embrace it.
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I look so often to younger generations and I've got two daughters and a couple of stepdaughters and now some what I call bonus grand kidoodles So who are three and seven and eight.
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And I want them to be really comfortable and just setting their own guidelines and boundaries.
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And it's funny, I almost said limits and it's not limits because that makes it feel like a lack of capacity.
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For me, it's a boundary, it's a guideline that's different.
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That has nothing to do with capability.
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That just has to do with, Hey, I'm going here and that's good for me.
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Thanks.
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I completely agree with that and it's, for me, I know that it was really a difficult thing for me to start doing that because I always felt like I was letting somebody down, like what you were talking about and converting that thought process in my head, or even the way that I felt.
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It's so funny.
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It's almost like when you work for an organization and there's always this onus of you're replaceable and you really don't believe it.
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You somehow think you are the only one.
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And when I started to be okay with that, I could be replaceable.
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I know that sounds crazy.
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It took so much pressure off of me to be like, yeah, you're right.
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I am replaceable.
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I totally get it because the other piece of that is every relationship works both ways.
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So guess what?
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And this is what I'd love to see in this younger generations, you're replaceable to employer.
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So if I'm not liking what you're doing or how you're doing things, I know that can be a little bit edgy and people may not agree with that.
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And that doesn't mean you just, pull up your tent the minute somebody doesn't do things you wanna do.
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But the truth of the matter is, I do believe, especially women, we all did, we took on a lot and we, we were treated certain ways.
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that we may not needed it to be.
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Found ourselves in situations and it doesn't even have to be, I'm not even speaking of like sexual harassment, that sort of thing that Yes.
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That and, but even just bad tone of voice.
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Or the, be the good girl and set the marketing room up or oh my, you're good with numbers.
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Who knew?
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I talk about this often.
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I come from a non-profit background.
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It's so funny.
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I do marketing now, but I come from an non-profit background and I left when the president said to me, I can do this, but you can't because the arena that we were in was an all boys club and I was like, well, I also don't need to work here.
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That's fine with me.
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I think what we're talking about is finding our value.
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Exactly and us defining, and here's the deal, which I finally learned way too late in life, is, one, everyone does have their own unique value.
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Two, I think earlier on in life realize that we have everything we need in here, which is by the way, your soul and you nourish your soul when you turn internally, as opposed to looking externally to others for approval.
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For the ADA girls, for the pats on the head, I'm sure it's great to get one here and there.
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That's fine, but I really do believe one of the most nourishing things is as long as you can do, you're doing right by you, and you know that, hey, at the end of the day, my dad always said, SIS, as long as you can look yourself in the mirror at the end of the day, smile.
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But it's really true.
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Because then, I don't know, there's a resolve, there's a confidence that comes with that unwavering and you have such a comprehension of who you are, what your value is, what you have to give, and also what you would like to take and receive from others.
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Exactly.
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And as you're talking and you're talking about younger generations, so my husband, I'll be very, he's a very steady Eddie.
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He's like job work, and he thinks his children should be the same way.
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We might have a difference of opinion in that.
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Because one of the things that I've learned, and I think it's been, especially cuz in marketing, we work with cross generations of those old ideologies versus those younger generation.
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I've had the best graphic artists and they would send me stuff in the middle of the night and others would be like, doesn't that drive you crazy?
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No.
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They're phenomenal.
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And, I think that's the whole change we're seeing generationally, is this idea of allowing people to find what works for them.
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And I think when we were raised conceptually, we didn't get that.
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It was, this is the way it was done.
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Well, why is this done?
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I don't know.
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There's a Christmas movie that has, I don't know if you've ever seen it's in the last two years, but it's a wonderful little cartoon.
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I can't think of the name of it, but it has these families that are feuding for years on this island, and they're like, why are you feuding?
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Because this is what we've always done and we're trying to break that now I think is healthy.
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But we have a lot of the, this is what we've always done.
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And I think what exactly, and I think it's so funny, I've heard that sort of told as there are certain people that cut the end of the ham off.
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And it's like, why do you do that?
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Well, it's because that's what you do.
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And I think to me in looking at the multiple generations, and I'm actually, I love that you brought this a topic near and dear to my heart.
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I'm doing a talk about this at a Worldwide Happiness summit.
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The different generations, cuz now we have five under one roof.
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And I'd like to look.
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The different generations and the different types of power that they respond to and how they do.
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And if I, everyone just remember, we were once the younger generation, we were the rabble rousers.
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They're just, some of us, myself included, that continue to rabble ruse.
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And I often, and people get such a kick out of it, but it's really true.
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I was a millennial before it was a thing and I grew up with my father, God bless him, was an insurance guy and he was like, SIS, you're gonna have a very steady linear career.
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I did lots of zigging and zagging and always achieving, always achieving.
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And now as I've gotten older, it is so prepared me, so listening to my own spirit.
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And in that sense, I didn't really care that much about what other people thought.
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there was a little voice inside that said, you're crazy like a fox and you're gonna do just fine.
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And now interesting.
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So many people, oh my gosh.
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Could you tell me how you did it?
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La la la And really it was listening to my myself, and.
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I'm just getting it, getting these great opportunities.
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As long as I accomplished something, I always wanted to come in.
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I was an acting publisher over at Fast Company and it was the brand called Jew, right.
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Back in the early days.
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And I really, that really resonated with me.
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And I, one of my favorite phrases, quotes, all who wander are not lost because they're not, to your point.
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And I think this younger generation really embodies that to A to a T but they're continuing to like the fact that you have all those Apple employees.
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When Apple said, you gotta come back, and they're like, no.
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And okay, we gotta lose your job.
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Okay, I'm losing my job.
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They don't care.
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So, I have to say that can be frustrating at the same time, tap of the hat.
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We're all wired so differently and I think this upcoming generation they're gonna be the ones who are left with the situation that we've built.
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And if they continue to do things the way we did, it's already over before it started.
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So of course they gotta do it differently, duh.
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So maybe we could learn from them and start finding a different sides of ourselves.
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Yeah.
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I can't agree more.
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I have a 20 year nine year old and a 17 year old in the way their brain thinks I'm like, Thank you.
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It's like, how did you see that?
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How did you know that?
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Just the instinctive.
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And you know what's interesting to me?
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And this is ironic, and it, you're just, it.
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You just hit something that's making me come to this.
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Here's the irony.
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I think, a lot of times we talk about the importance of connecting in person.
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Importance of touch and I know younger set, they're all digital natives, so they're very used to screens.
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But hello a lot of those screens are touchscreens.
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So they are touching.
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But just a different way, I never really thought of that.
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I don't know why I felt like sharing that.
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What's really interesting is, so obviously I've done social media for the last 11 years.
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My son, my youngest he's been allowed to be on it since he was 13.
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I'm like, made him wait till he was 13, but he was allowed to be on, he has no desire to be on it whatsoever.
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And it's hysterical to me because, and this is the difference is he's like I don't need to be on there.
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He's like, not only do I not need to be on there, I don't care what other people think of me.
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And I'm like, oh, hallelujah and part of me is grateful.
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Like obviously we had the internet when I grew up.
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I remember my first typing class on a big bulky apple where you had to PEMDAS oh my goodness not PEMDAS.
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MSDOS
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Yeah, it was something like that.
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My gosh.
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We're going really back there.
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But anyway, but what's really funny about that is there was such a concern for everybody liking you and in those days in age, and now it's like.
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And fitting in.
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And fitting and now he's like, yeah, I don't care.
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Exactly.
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And standing out was, I don't know.
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I'm heartened by the level of individuality.
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Be it one's physical appearance.
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This is getting even more and more nuanced.
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I'll put it that way.
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Which I think is great.
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And anyway, I'm refreshed, I feel very.
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Good about the future as long as, we still make sure that there's room for open conversation.
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And that's really what it boils down to.
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So I would love to know from you specifically, was there, we've talked a little bit about it already, but was there any specific point where you felt like, okay, I need to discover myself first?
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My family thought I had lost my mind, becasue they thought Facebook was gonna close the next day.
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That kind of thing but for the first time I was like, this old way of working does not work for me.
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So, I listened.
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So I was just curious if you had that one time where you're like, yeah, this is it.
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This is not working.
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Yeah It's interesting.
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So we joke, my friends, my family, we joke that I've lived like nine lives.
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I've had so many re inventions, but really I think they're iterations of myself.
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And I will tell you that there were probably a few early on that I didnt realize, so I had one very humbling situation where I was being groomed to be the president of a company.
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So I thought, and what had happened was we were part of a large, global conglomerate in the US division.
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and I had done something with technology, as in this is when apps were being built.
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And we did a better job.
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We won awards, got all this notoriety, which was fantastic for the company, but the European headquarters didn't like it because they wanted them to do it.
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So I found myself all of a sudden out of the blue, my biggest fear, I got let go.
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I was like, wait a second.
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How could I possibly get let go?
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I just did all this what, and I had, it was so heartening cuz as a leader, I worked with a lot of young guys and so I had a bunch of 27 year old guys crying because it was so unfair.
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And there was something inside me that said, okay, I don't know why, but it said, Katie, this is happening because, there's something so much better and you're off course.
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and you're gonna need to be redirected.
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And I don't know where that sense of that came from, but most recently I've really had it in spades.
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Ironically working in the impact space.
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