Jan. 4, 2023
Kay Aubrey-Chimene - Building an Enlightened Business
Are you a female entrepreneur who craves sunlight? Do you know the benefits of light therapy? This week on the Wellness and Wealth podcast, Kay Aubrey-Chimene of Photonic Therapy Institute addresses what photopuncture is and the benefits it can have on reducing pain in the body. She’ll also share some miracle stories of how light therapy changed her life and others in chronic pain. In this episode, Kay Aubrey-Chimene answers the following questions: What can photopuncture he...
Are you a female entrepreneur who craves sunlight? Do you know the benefits of light therapy?
This week on the Wellness and Wealth podcast, Kay Aubrey-Chimene of Photonic Therapy Institute addresses what photopuncture is and the benefits it can have on reducing pain in the body. She’ll also share some miracle stories of how light therapy changed her life and others in chronic pain.
In this episode, Kay Aubrey-Chimene answers the following questions:
- What can photopuncture help with?
- What are the signs of starting to realize that light therapy might benefit themselves or their fur babies?
- How long does it take someone to feel the benefits of light therapy?
Guest Offer: Launch your Light Therapy business with training and business support with Photonic Therapy Institute.
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Hi everyone.
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Hi everyone.
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Today we have another exciting topic.
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We are talking about building an enlightened business, helping humans, horses, or pets, and we have another special guest, Kay Aubrey-Chimene.
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I'll read her bio and then we'll get right into it.
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Kay is an internationally known bionutritional consultant and light therapy educator who founded and directs Photonic Therapy Institute As the owner and director of Grand Adventures Ranch, a holistic wellness center.
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She has developed light therapy and photo puncture protocols for humans and animals that are as successfully used internationally by clients and practitioners, practitioner, writer, speaker, and educator.
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K teaches international.
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With a primary focus on using a cleanse, nourish balance approach toward health for all species.
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She hosts weekly light therapy, education webinars for her students and the public on best practices for attaining maximum results from any light therapy tools.
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K is the driving force behind the live and online late therapy and photo puncture courses hosted by photo.
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Therapy institute her revolutionary courses on photo puncture, light therapy.
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Combined the accuracy of acupuncture with the healing power of light, and are recognized for a national certificate certification by B.A.N.S Board of Advanced Natural Sciences.
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Hi.
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Kay, welcome.
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Hi.
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I didn't realize you were gonna have to read that whole tongue twister.
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It's all good.
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I like reading my guests bios because I'm like, listen, that what you've done.
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Sometimes we forget until we hear it and we.
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Oh yeah, I have done that.
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Yeah, it's always good when we have somebody else help us to toot our own horn.
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I had somebody else help write the bio introduction.
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So welcome to the show and thank you for doing this.
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It's been a blast doing the show, of course, but I love meeting everybody and learning about what they do and how they self-care and how they help others self-care in so many ways.
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So this is just another one of those topics and because we're talking about light therapy, I'd love to know, what your concept is, because I will tell you that mine was, I don't know if you remember, there was a time when everybody had seasonal depression.
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This is like going back a long time ago.
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Yeah.
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Affective disorder.
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Right.
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Exactly..
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And everybody was on light therapy, but nobody really knew how that worked or who was really on it.
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But it was like this buzzword for a bit.
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So I'd love for your take on what is light therapy and how you got started in it.
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To help clear that up.
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Seasonal SAD, seasonal effective disorder is still to this day, treated with blue light panels that help to change the circadian rhythm in your brain and, wake your brain back up and help overcome depressive instances that are focused on not enough light in our life.
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But light therapy in the way that we refer to it is now actually got a better name.
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The new name is Photobiomodulation.
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Basically balancing the body with photons, the packets of light.
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And it's been around for about 120 years.
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It's been heavily researched, well, Light Therapy's been around for thousands of years.
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Even back the ancient Greeks and the Egyptians, they had rooms where people could be in the light to help overcome issues.
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But what we think of today as light therapy, which is saturating the body with specific colors of light to trigger cellular respiration and giving the each cell the energy it needs to do its own job better and to heal and replicate and detox, and all of those things that we need energy for that's really been studied since about the 1960s and then when NASA came into it and the advent of better and better lasers and then better and better, LEDs where we could focus with very specific wavelengths and pulse them at certain wave at certain frequencies meant a rapidly growing area of medicine, and it's now one of the fastest, most researched areas growing worldwide.
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So what started off for me 25 years ago as a WOOWOO practitioner and Oh yeah.
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You got those little red diodes and the F.D.A.
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only approved light therapy devices if they had a heating element to it.
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So they approved it as a heating pad cuz of course light didn't do anything.
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and now today we see massive areas.
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I was doing a new list on all the types of light therapy there are now, and it just kept growing all the different applications that we use it for.
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There's a brilliant woman in Australia using highly targeted laser light for laser anesthesia.
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And they're literally like pulling wisdom teeth with doing nothing but numbing a nerve with laser.
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So the applications have exploded.
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Oh, that's really interesting.
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And see how much I know about the subject because that's not what I would assume you could do with light therapy or utilize this that's fascinating.
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So for you, did it grow with you because you were into it.
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No, I'm a lifelong horse woman.
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I grew up on the back of a horse and then when I went off to college and I was gonna go to vet school and all of these things, I got sicker and sicker by my early thirties.
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I stood up in my foot broke.
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I was so arthritic and so acidic and so out of shape, and I was really a product of Western diet and Western medicine.
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I had allergies, so I lived on antihistamines.
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I was always in pain, so I lived on, analgesics.
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I got worse and worse.
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I was eating a typical Western diet, tons of preservatives and food colorings and crap, and I just got sicker and sicker, but I didn't do anything for me and I had a girlfriend get me back on a horse.
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And I ended up buying, a heart horse.
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He was just the sweetest thing in the world and he ended up bowing both front legs, which means he totally ripped the suspensory ligaments in both front legs and two different vets said, put him down.
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He's hamburger you'll never write him again.
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He'll never be out of pain.
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But my vet who'd been out of town, came back and she's very holistically minded and she said, I've been reading about these light therapy wraps now, this is the early 1990s.
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Nobody had ever heard of this stuff.
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This was way out there, but I trusted her and I didn't tell my husband how much I went and put on the credit cards that week cuz we were dead broke and I bought these light therapy wraps for his front legs.
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And typically with bow tendons, if you can save them at all, they get stuck in a little 10 by 10 pen for six months.
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They're not allowed to do anything but barely walk and they end up with all kinds of scar tissue and you then start working on the scar tissue.
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Well when we ultrasound him, we found that he already had a lot of scar tissue and it turned out he had old bows.
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So we started using these light therapy wraps on him twice a day, morning and night.
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And at 30 days I called her back out and I said, would you come check him for me cuz all the swelling is gone.
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And they called it a bow tendon cuz the leg bows out like it's a tire.
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And she said it's way too early.
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Take six months.
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I said, I've got a science background.
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I've gotta see what's happening.
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So she came back out and she did new ultrasounds and when we compared the ones right after he damaged himself, which had completely ripped the suspensory ligaments at 30 days.
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He'd laid down all but one pinpoint hole of all the collagen needed for new ligaments, and he'd broken down about 75% of all this old scar tissue.
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We were shocked and I started hand walking him, and at 90 days his legs were cleaner than if he was a baby.
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And he's now a 40 year old pasture pony that looks in my window every morning.
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That's awesome.
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What an incredible story.
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Yeah.
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That's what brought me to light, and he taught me how to start getting myself healthy because what I wouldn't do for myself, I would do for my horse.
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I started learning about detoxification and proper mineralization and pH the body, and then when I started layering light onto that and figured out what I could do.
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I don't have arthritis anymore.
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I'm a woman in her sixties and I still, haul around hay bales and grab hay and take care of eight horses and do all of that, which I would never have thought I would've been able to do at 32.
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So I love your story because the whole onus on this is as an entrepreneur yourself, but is this idea of self-care.
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And I like that you said because it's so true.
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What I would do for him, I wouldn't do for myself.
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I have four animals, two children.
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I understand that statement, especially when I was younger, I would've never thought to take care of myself the way that I take care of others.
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Right.
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If you're an athlete.
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Even the athletes of this world, they're taught how to bulk up their muscles, but they're not taught how to prevent the lactic acid buildup or to repair themselves right after extreme workouts.
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And we shorten our enjoyment of life.
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Even if we don't shorten our lifespan.
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We shorten our enjoyment of life by allowing that to happen to ourselves.
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And if we don't take care of ourselves, we can't take care of anyone else.
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Yeah.
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Always that's the way that is.
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And I love that you work with horses because I do have an affinity to them.
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I've never owned them.
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But I love to ride'em.
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And I think there is something so self-caring when you get to spend that time with a horse
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They reground you.
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They're fabulous.
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They reground you, they connect you to Mother Nature.
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They make you slow down.
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You can't go fast around a horse.
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You will get hurt.
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Right.
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I think they're beautiful.
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And you can tell that they have some sort for lack of a better word, magical soul to them.
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They're so in the moment.
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They're just so in the moment of, okay, we're doing this, I love them.
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It takes a.
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To lose a horse's faith in you.
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And when you do, it takes a lot to get it back.
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They try to live in the moment.
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They try to, allow for what's happening.
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They're there to teach us so much, but they're the one brought me into light therapy.
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I started off learning all of the photo puncture, all of the other work for my horses.
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And it wasn't till 10, 15 years later that I started working on humans with it.
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Other than myself and my own family.
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So that actually leads me to the question.
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Because I've read in your bio that you've combined acupuncture with light therapy.
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So I'd love for you to talk about that because I know acupuncture is one of those things that.
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It's been around for thousands of years, people use it.
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I have friends who swear by it.
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But using it with light therapy, I'm interested in how that either intensifies or really helps somebody.
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It is actually replacing the needle with light.
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So as I was saying, there's many different applications with light as the two that we focus on at Photonic Therapy Institute and that I teach the most of.
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The first one is that big, fancy word I said, photobiomodulation.
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That's where we're just saturating the body with light.
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In order to give it enough energy to do what it's supposed to do, and if you target it in a certain way, you get better responses and better results.
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We teach about that.
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That's normally done with pads or hadn't held devices or lasers.
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If you went to a doctor or a chiropractor and he whipped out his laser, that's usually what they're doing.
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They're waving that back and forth and giving a certain amount of light to the tissue underneath the laser or underneath the handheld device.
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Photo puncture is a little bit different, back about 35 years ago, research was being done in Russia where they had a very sensitive, screen sent a scanner that could show when the energetic potential of a cell would change.
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In other words, the cell would light up and they were testing lasers on a patient and they suddenly realized that when they would light up, for example, what is lung one, which is a point directly here underneath your shoulder blade, right?
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All of a sudden a light would light up the end of the thumb.
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And it's not something you're gonna see with your visible naked eye.
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But it was something where they would see the cellular potential change.
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There was more energy in the cells at the end of the thumb then, and they started tracing the cell and they realized that they exactly matched where the acupuncture meridians were and where certain points on the meridians would come to the surface And, what we learned is over this time is that light is channeled down the acupuncture meridians just like it is fiber optic cable.
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In recent years, we've learned that those meridians are actually a kind of core puzzle that flows to the body, and they can now with newer imaging and MRI techniques and so on, they can now trace those meridians.
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Skeptics have said forever that it's crazy woowoo medicine.
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It would never work.
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Well, guess what?
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The Orientals had it mapped out correctly 2000 years ago, and we're just now catching up, being able to use staining and MRIs to see where that energy flow goes, but red light, and now we're learning green light.
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Both get channeled straight down those meridians and when we push that energy, that light down those meridians, it activates those pathways and eliminates blockages, rebalancing the flow of our energy.
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So we can use targeted light therapy or what I call photo acupuncture.
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It's also called laser acupuncture.
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It's called photonic therapy.
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We can very quickly make a systemic change, a very fast change to the entire body by activating those acupuncture points.
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And the beautiful thing about doing photo puncture is because there's no needles and it's non-invasive, we could do it for ourselves.
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There's no license leaning on it.
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And my company, Photonic Therapies Institute provides charts with little recipes.
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You have bad allergies, activate these points for 30 seconds each.
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Stop the histamine response.
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You have lower back pain.
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Activate these points you have, and we're not curing anything.
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We're giving the body, we're bringing it back into balance.
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Whether that's stimulating, stimulating lymph drainage or shifting the body into a parasympathetic state, like shifting into rest and digest, you can do that less than three minutes with light.
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So you're starting to mention some of them, but what are types of conditions or illnesses that it really helps with or that you notice that it even helps with more?
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I can't go there.
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We do not treat illness.
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I have to say that as a non-licensed medical professional, we do not diagnose.
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We do not treat, we do not cure, but also, it's the wrong way to look at it.
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When we give a diagnosis, we say somebody has diabetes, it puts it into a classification, and everybody wants a pill to fix it.
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But when we look at the parts of the body that are affected, maybe that diabetes has lowered pancreatic function, but maybe they have peripheral neuropathy.
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We can help the body to regenerate that nerve activity and reconnect that activity to the brain and reroute the pain signals that have gotten taken over by the frontal lobe with light.
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The three things that the FDA will allow us to say about any light therapy tool is that it lowers pain, Increases circulation and stimulates cellular repair, like two to 300%.
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When you think about it, that's about 90% of fixing almost anything.
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If you could get out of pain and move better and have better circulation and your cells regenerated faster, that's a big key.
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So when somebody says to me, can I fix my tennis elbow with this?
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I said, well, would it be better with these three things?
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And then a couple of years ago, I was helping to write a research study, and I was going through all these other medical papers and I found a quote by a researcher that I've glommed onto.
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I love it.
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It says, light therapy gives every cell the energy it needs to do its own job better.
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So heart cells do heart work better.
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Nerve cells do nerve work better brain cells do brain work better.
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Skin cells do skin jobs better when they have the energy they need.
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And light is that packet of energy, that's it, absorbed by what's called a chromo forest or color in the skin, or by water.
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We're big bags of water.
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So we absorb all this light.
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Infrared light is absorbed by the water.
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So when you start trying to go, what can it fix?
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Well, what can't we fix if we have more energy?
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If the cells can replicate themselves, if they can detox themselves, it comes down to where do we shine our light and which light do we shine?
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Not, oh gee, we don't use it for this or this.
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That's interesting.
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And I do find that everything has to fit into what an insurance company will pay.
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And for 30 years, one of the big name in L L L T is what it was called for years.
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I there was arguments over whether that was low level laser therapy or low level light therapy.
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But the big dog in the room is Thor laser.
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If you walk into most dentists, physicians, high level medical centers.
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The big laser they have on the side of the booth is a Thor laser system.
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Usually not all of them, but especially 20 years ago, Thor has been fighting for 35 years to get that covered by the insurance.
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And unless there isn't a pill to hide the symptoms, they're still fighting that fight.
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The research that is funded is research into areas where pharmaceuticals have not been successful.
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So for example, Alzheimer's and, Parkinson's.
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Two areas where light therapy has been extremely successful.
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For dentists it's oral mucositis and graft versus host disease.
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Drugs don't seem to address it, especially if you prep the area with light before giving radiation, chemo, or if you get light on it as soon as possible after, you can negate all of those infections that happen around the head and neck.
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So those things are paid for by insurance, but more of it is growing.
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We're seeing more insurance covering the tools we work with, and it really comes down to it can't start with Thor, it has to start with patient demand.
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Patients or clients of the insurance companies have to demand that.
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It used to be you couldn't get acupuncture or massage or other woowoo things paid for by health insurance.
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And now a lot of that's covered.
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So it's one more therapy that we have to demand, we want in our toolbox, what our providers can be paid for.
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It's so funny you said that cuz I was having a conversation with somebody.
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I have these conversations often is that as patients we should have some say in our care.
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It shouldn't be a pill or a surgery.
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We should really have say and finding the right doctor to work with you with that?
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It is an issue and we are our own best advocates for what we need.
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And you're right.
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It's not gonna be the major companies who are gonna change that.
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It's going to be the patients who say, yeah, no, I don't wanna do it that way.
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And last year I actually had a massage for the first time on my insurance and I had no idea that they had even started covering that.
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Yeah, I know that.
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Especially in the face of like car accidents and trauma.
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They found it's gonna cost them a whole lot less long term and one thing that is bringing about the change, of course, is the opiate crisis.
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When you start realizing that you can stop the pain response, much of our pain is emotionally caused.
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