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Hi everyone.
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My name's Wendy Manganaro and I am the Host of the Wellness and Wealth podcast.
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I'm so happy to have you find us.
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Stay blessed.
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Hey everyone.
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It's Wendy Manganaro from the Wellness and Wealth podcast.
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I'm excited to be bringing you another episode.
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And today we have Catherine Demonte joining us and we're gonna be talking about wealth consciousness and, money mindset, and the things that either stop us or really catapult us into this wealth consciousness.
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I'm really excited about this conversation because I know I've done a lot of work in this area and I always think there's always more work I can do.
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I think most women who understand wealth conciousness as entrepreneurs can see a difference in how they run their business and themselves, when they start to go into these different type of money, mindset ideologies.
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So I'm gonna read to Catherine's bio and then we'll get started.
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Catherine is a licensed marriage, family and child therapist who has provided integrative therapy for 30 years.
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She's the author of a book on manifestation called Beep Beep, Get Out Of My Way, Seven Tools For Powerful Creation and Living Your Unstoppable Life.
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And the founder of abundance circle groups created to help participants call in what they have been longing to attract in their life.
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Through this work she's helped scores of women and men live their fullest most robust and most authentic selves.
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So welcome, Catherine.
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Thanks for joining me today.
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You're very welcome.
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Thank you so much for having me, Wendy.
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Glad to be here.
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Yeah, I'm really excited.
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And Catherine was one of the first people that I actually talked about starting this idea of a podcast for women in business, who really need a reminder, like even me, myself, that if we put ourselves first mentally, spiritually, and physically, then we run our businesses better.
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And a lot of this has to do with mindset though.
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So I do love the name of your book.
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I think it's so cute.
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Beep beep get outta your way.
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I think that's great.
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So, how did you come up with this?
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Hmm.
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That's a great question.
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In my private practice I noticed that people seemed to come in because one particular thing was missing in their life that they were really long to have, and that was the, their angst and their depression came around the fact that they didn't have a certain thing.
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So in my practice, I gave a few tools that seemed to help them around mindset and attraction that pulled the thing in and their life changed.
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So when I noticed that with clients, I thought a group would be even more powerful and that people could then attract the thing they wanted.
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And when they did, I noticed they seemed unstoppable in life.
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And that's how I got the subtitle.
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And I just felt like these tools are very powerful.
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And as I said, these mostly women, there are a few men in the groups, but the abundance circles that came out of my practice nine outta 10 of the people in each circle, literally got the thing in that time, whether it was a partner or more financial flow.
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Or more peace, whatever it was for them, they literally attracted it and they'd been waiting years for it.
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And when they had it, they were so on fire that they were unstoppable.
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And they used the tools for everything else after that,
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I love that.
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And isn't that the truth?
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Once you learn these manifestation tools even if it's one area you're like, Hey, wait a second.
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This might work everywhere.
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I can use it in this area of my life.
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It's working wonderfully and it's like a light bulb when they realize they can use it in other areas of their life.
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Absolutely.
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It's a tool.
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That's one size fits all the universe.
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Doesn't mind what it is we ask for.
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We put our own blocks on them, as you mentioned, due to things like limiting self talk or, faulty beliefs.
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So maybe we think we got lucky when I use these tools and attracted a partner, but I don't think it would work for the money that's always been tight or vice versa.
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But you're so right.
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It's just a formula.
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And when you know it, everything can flow, whatever it is that you're wanting at that time.
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Yeah.
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And that's the thing is getting people to get there is like an extraordinary thing.
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And we've talked cuz both of us like Abraham Hicks, right?
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Yes.
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And if you're new in the audience and you have never heard, I highly recommend looking up Esther and Jerry Hicks.
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I think that's a great thing too.
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Just an idea of listening to some of her ideologies.
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It's not a fluke.
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It's not like coincidence.
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We're really putting things in a kind of a imaginary hat to later on be pulled out and I'm gonna be able to get this.
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I've already put everything there that I want and need.
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And with that idea let me ask you this.
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I have my own ideas on this, but I wanna hear yours.
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So when we're talking about entrepreneurship, there's a whole mindset out there.
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That's this hustle, the more I do, the more I'll get.
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And it's like a 24 7 type of lifestyle.
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Mm-hmm
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Sometimes it's this like high stress, high pressure.
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I've gotta be on at all times with this puzzle.
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Yeah.
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And so do you think that in there at all, that there could be some mindfulness or wealth consciousness, or do you think that mindset takes away from it?.
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That's such a good point.
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This myth we've been told that you have to work really hard for all of your life, all your adult life in order to be successful goes against what I believe to be the flow of abundance.
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I absolutely believe it can come in with grace and ease and it doesn't have to be so hard.
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We can work less and have more come in.
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If we know the mindset, I think of that as being very masculine and very much about taking, like working hard and taking.
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Versus more in the feminine for both men and women and flowing and learning to receive.
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So watching our mindset around what we've heard our parents say about working hard, or maybe we grew up hearing money, doesn't grow on trees or, things like that, that you have to work really hard in order.
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For it to come in, but that I think ignores all the other bodies we have, like they're not just machines working to pull in money.
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We also have an emotional, mental, and physical body that needs tending to, so if we can make more and less time and tend to those life flows much better, obviously.
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Watching, for example, our stories that our parents, that are inherited stories, for example, would be a great place to start.
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So what we've grew up with or what we've been told.
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What other things, when it comes to this hustle mindset, do you think we can sit there and go, okay.
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Maybe that doesn't make sense.
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How do you start almost deprogramming yourself?
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What's some of the first steps that you go okay.
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So if hustle doesn't work, because I think there's a fear out there of what, what it would look like.
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If I don't do that.
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You're right.
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There's still a fear of letting go of it since it's been so programmed.
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So the first step would be recognizing that that is exactly what it is.
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I've learned this and I can unlearn it.
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I can change the money story just cuz I saw my parents doing that and their parents doesn't mean it's true or doesn't mean that it's my story.
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Even if it were true.
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It's not my story.
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I can have it come in with grace and.
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And one of the simplest ways to shift the story is to simply think about money as energy.
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Like we do love.
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If we thought of money, like we do love, we never think about having to work hard to be in a relationship or to attract a perfect person.
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That would be so repelling.
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It would look so needy.
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If we were on a first date and we're like, I hope you're the one I've gotta, I've gotta be on top of it.
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I hope everything looks perfect.
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I hope my answers are perfect to your questions.
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I hope I look perfect.
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It would be so off putting.
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But if we allowed love to flow in, or when we allow flow to come in and we also give love, then more flows to us.
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We need to have that same kind of relationship with money that I receive it easily.
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I give it easily.
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I don't hoard it.
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I don't hold onto it when it does come.
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I expect it to come.
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Just like I expect love to be in my life.
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I've never questioned that.
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And I bet nobody listening has ever thought.
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I wonder if I'm gonna be loved in life.
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I wonder if anybody will love me.
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I wonder if my children love me.
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I wonder if my partner loves me, my teachers, we just assume that people do cuz we're good people.
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We can do the same with money.
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It just, and I think that's one of the first steps is just thinking of it that way and not hoarding it to, there was a woman in one of my abundant circles for whom money was tight and that was the thing she wanted to attract.
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So she kept a$100 bill in her wallet that she didn't spend.
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So that every time she opened it, Because she kept forgetting it was there.
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She'd go.
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Oh my gosh, I have a hundred dollars bill in there.
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I'm so rich.
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So every time she said I'm so rich, she was actually doing an affirmation cuz I AM statements are so powerful.
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And that's another tool I AM statements, instead of saying, for example, if somebody calls and invites us to something, but money's tight we do an, we actually create, a deeper entrenchment of the story if we say, oh, I wish I could, but I can't.
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I'm really broke right now.
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I am broke.
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Now just declared that to the world and furthers.
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That's true about us or that we believe it's true.
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So the universe goes, oh, okay.
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So you're broke.
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We'll give you more of that.
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But let's say instead, we said, oh, I'd love to, but I'm not gonna be able to right now, but thank you.
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Maybe next time we don't have to bring up that we don't have enough.
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So we need to watch that as well.
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We're making declarations all the time.
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When we say I'm broke.
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I never have enough money.
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That's you're creating that story continuing it if you use that language.
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So it's really funny that you say that and you're going to get a kick out of this story.
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So I have started to tell people about, the idea of manifestation and don't say things like I'm broke.
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What you say is what you're getting, right?
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So be careful.
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And there was a while.
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That I was going, oh, I can't tell them that.
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I did not say I'm broke.
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Cuz I'm saying I'm broke.
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I got so into it.
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I was like, oh my goodness.
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It was funny.
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I wanted to back up and ask you one question.
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So what is your definition for wealth consciousness?
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Cuz I think people are familiar with the money mindset idea and they don't know if there's a difference between wealth consciousness and money mindset.
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What would you describe that as?
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I would describe wealth consciousness as our awareness, our deep understanding of the way money flows and our relationship to it.
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What our thoughts are around it, what we've inherited, because that comes into our conscious mind when we hear our parents arguing, for example, about money and spending.
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So to be aware of money.
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And then what we say about it is what I would call wealth consciousness and having a healthy relationship with it is part of wealth consciousness.
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And I would assume that for each person, the idea of wealth is different, right?
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I think This ideology out there, it goes with the hustle.
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Ideology is everybody's pushing for six figures, which is great.
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There's nothing wrong with that.
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I'm not saying anything wrong with that.
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That's wonderful.
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But can we talk about that?
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Maybe that's not what everybody's goals is in wealth consciousness like that doesn't have to be the standard for everybody.
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No, I love that.
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You said that it's so true.
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Because if it feels like the standard and that's not what we're offered, that's not what our, the job that we're in offers or, or what we're interested in.
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It's it would feel like failing.
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And it's also, to me, when I hear it, it feels and that's the only path to happiness too.
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Once I've reached that, then I'll be happy in all these categories.
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That's not true.
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That's a falsehood..
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Ooh, I like that.
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You said this.
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So once I reach this, I will be happy.
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So that's a big part of money.
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Mindset.
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Is this idea.
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I'd love for you to go into more clarification that we don't have to wait for happy.
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And what that looks like.
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Yes, yes.
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I like how, how you worded that it's really an inside job.
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Isn't happiness.
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So if I'm counting on becoming happy when, and then I fill in the blank and for some, it will be when I hit six figures, I'm postponing my happiness.
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How about I am already happy?
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I stand in a place of happiness every day, every moment.
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And it's really nice when these things show up that match that happiness, like money flowing or relationship.
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I don't need those things to be happy, but be a more, of course that's a negative, I, but what I mean, I already am.
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I am happy and how lovely cuz now my energy attracts the things I want.
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So this is really good though, because if you are in a place where like you're things don't look the way you'd like it to look as we talk about being an entrepreneur and a business owner.
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If I really believe that we are complete people, right?
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There's not compartmentalizing.
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Because we're whole people and we bring us into every situation we go into so if you have somebody who's looking at this and going, I'm not real happy in my business life.
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It's not going the way I thought my relationship is now not going the way I thought, because I'm not achieving here.
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It really doesn't matter what parts of your life it is, how do you even spot that there's even a problem?
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Mm mm-hmm mm-hmm yeah, that is a really, really good question.
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I think how we spot that there's even a problem is looking at our circumstances and noticing that I'm still in a place that doesn't feel ideal.
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So for me, I love this conversation because money was the place I bumped into or feeling a lack of it.
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Just briefly my husband's money story was that he was one of six and his mom was a stay at home mom.
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So his dad worked several jobs, but there wasn't enough to provide very much for six children, especially when they were in private school.
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So it was really stretched.
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So he saw his dad working, but there was never enough.
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And my money story is I'm a twin, but my, this was back in the days when, before ultrasound and my mom didn't know that she was carrying twins.
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So my sister was born first.
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And while she was on the table, they didn't know I was there.
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and then the doc, she and the nurse started, feeling her stomach and noticed there was something else.
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And they told the doctor who didn't believe that there was anybody else.
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And then they finally realized I was, so I was nine minutes later and came, but my mom made a big point, my whole life of what a surprise I was, but she didn't say it like, and you were such a pleasant surprise, but how much work it was and how hard it was and so my story was I have to work.
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I better earn my keep.
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I didn't realize that for a long time, but it was because I'm the unexpected guest.
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I shouldn't take up too much room and I shouldn't need too much.
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And that's okay.
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Cuz I can work.
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I can start babysitting in junior high school so that I can buy my own things.
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So my husband's money story around you have to work really hard, but there won't be enough fit my wound perfectly of that's okay.
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Cause I have to work on my own anyway, you don't have to give to me.
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I noticed that I don't get enough just like I did at home.
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Cuz, I didn't earn much, I was a young girl trying to make my way in the world.
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So there's an expression that says his claws fit her wounds or vice versa, which I think is powerful.
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So my husband's story of I'm gonna be off and working, but we still won't have much money.
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So we won't have relationship time and we won't have.
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Much money and we can't go on trips and we can't do a lot of things.
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Cuz money is always tight.
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Like you, I don't wanna really put that out.